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I'm not terribly well investen in , so, question to the hive-mind: Is there any well-know SciFi media thing that features cyborgs and includes people chosing cyborg bodies that are not humanoid?
Besides Battle Angel Alita?

reblogs for reach would be nice :)

@Canageek @Anke there's an episode of the tv series love death and robots called good hunting that's got a really cool cyborg robot that looks like a fennec fox...

@Anke oh I don't know but this sounds really cool. Would think there would be a lot!

@Anke

Thank you for the idea. I have a story universe that supports this, but I've not really had a solid idea for the story. This is super helpful.

@Anke Ghost in the Shell has instances of this. For example, the "Jameson-type cyborg" is a box with four legs and two arms.

live.staticflickr.com/2611/423

@anke

Adjacent?

I'm trying to remember the author or book title. Human protagonist transported to alien world for work or diplomacy by taking over (voluntarily?) a native host (temporarily?

It's not exactly cyborg, but...

I'll try to jog my memories.

@Algot Huh, that reminded me thaat James Cameron's Avatar had something similar, and apparently the idea also appeared in a short story by Poul Anderson, “Call Me Joe”.

@anke

I'm wondering if Jeffery Carver's "Neptune Crossing" is what I'm remembering...with its sequel series.

I'll keep looking.

@anke

The novel about which I am thinking involves very non-humanoid host beings.

I am bouncing all over the place trying to remember any author/title information, but coming up short, sorry.

@Algot @anke sounds interesting, and fairly typical for the genre :) makes me wonder and often i feel that for all our “complexity” we really are pretty simple creatures. :)

@anke It's hard-light but Cora from Grrlpower has non-humanoid bodies, though they only show one in the comic after this one: grrlpowercomic.com/archives/co

@anke *Man Plus* by Fredrick Pohl has some of it, since the human in question is modified to adapt to a planet including getting wings, new senses, and other alterations.

Though, there were some iffyness there since he wasn't happy they took away his penis because it was causing information overload.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Plus

It's also an old book written by an old white man, so... no idea what other "used to be fines" were in there.

It's not a well-known franchise, but I'm fairly certain the Fenspace shared universe (soft-SF in which a substance called wavium (or, handwavium) is discovered in the early 21st century that basically allows for mad science) has at least a few cases of this. I'll see if I can spot anything on the wiki.

All the cyborgs I'm spotting are close to human form. But there's nothing in the setting to require that. I did find mention of a 'battlecat' cyborg in one story, but that's it.

@LilFluff @Anke your fenspace is also in range of my F2FN (Fox to Fox networking), which i'm boosting with my own ears.

@anke I'm not sure if it quite fits, but Voltron? There are individual panther-robots that join up to form a humanoid robot, but they're not *quite* just robots, they have some degree of sentience - like they have to 'accept' their pilots.

@Anke Tears of Steel from Blender

cloud.blender.org/films/tears-

Should be well-known here, but sadly probably not so much outside FLOSS oriented groups

also on Blender's PeerTube instance

video.blender.org/videos/watch

now in 4k

#LibreGraphics

@Anke Wait, Battle Angel Alita has folks choosing non-humanoid bodies? Clearly I need to give this a watch.

@monsterblue I haven't seen the movie, was referring to the manga, which I believe covers a lot more time and plot, so I can't vouch for them showing up in the movie.

@Anke

Anne McCaffrey's ship series is classic sci-fi featuring people inhabiting spaceship bodies (due to accident or illness, not choice, iirc)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ship

People living on Mars in Hannu Rajaniemi's Quantum Theif series pay for their existence by being uploaded into machine bodies to perform maintenance

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quan

Greg Egan's Diaspora is a posthuman setting, many characters inhabit non-human bodies (though many remain humanoid)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaspora

@Anke i would be excited to learn of any replies like "this hard sci-fi novel i read casually begins with 6-limbed cyberdragons dating sapient space plants and by the end my amygdala was convinced that bilateral symmetry was hegemonic and passé"

i have not found that novel yet

@anke Greg Egan's _Diaspora_, excellent novel.

Some very very nohumanoid. Been a while but I seem to remember eg, fractal tentacles

@anke Masamune Shirow's manga _Appleseed_ features cyborgs prominently -- one of the two primary protagonists is a 'borg and the tech is pretty common in the setting. Roughly the same level of humanoidness as Battle Angel Alita, if I remember correctly.

@Anke Revelation Space has some pretty extreme examples of this. It’s hard sci-fi. The Bobiverse series does tangentially. The Ship who sang (Anne Mccaffrey), some of Greg Evans books touch on this but they’re still humanoid in focus

seeking sci-fi 

@Anke

Astro Boy has stories about non-humanoid cyborgs. In the first volume, there are cyborgs who choose to become dogs.

I still haven't read it, but "The Ship Who Sang" is one of many stories now about cyborgs who have starships for bodies.

@anke Glasshouse (Charles Stross) does, both as part of the protagonist's history and as background

I want to say that Hannu Rajaniemi's stories also do

Amusingly, Snow Crash (Neal Stephenson) technically qualfies since one person uses a truck as a defacto body

@Anke bit spoiler but you might be interested in book 2 of Wayfarers

@Anke I think you could take both Ghost in the Shell films and understand them like that. It's less people choosing non-humanoid bodies (though it happens) as generally exploring the boundaries between human and machine when machine minds can control human bodies and vice versa.

@Anke A lot of things are humanoid+ though - as in, not leaving the human body behind, but jumping into a car body for a while. Or taking on some extra features in parts of the body you wear/replace.

I suppose you'd have to look into cyberpunk/transhumanist stuff to find what you are looking for.

One series of SF books is Eon/Eternity, which is really just leaving bodies behind for a computer-powered hive mind.

@Anke @brainwane It’s a semi-minor character, but my first exposure to the idea, and the first thing that comes to mind, is Ng from Snow Crash and his “wheelchair”.

@anke does being able to extend yourself into machinery count? "Cunningham didn't just operate his remotes; he escaped into them, wore them like a secret identity to hide the feeble Human baseline within. He had sacrificed half of his neocortex for the chance to see x-rays and taste the shapes hiding in cell membranes, he had butchered one body to become a fleeting tenant of many. Pieces of him hid in the sensors and manipulators[...]" -- Blindsight, Peter Watts

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